Unrealistic Expectations & Conflicting Emotions
April 14, 2020 - Episode #14 - Unrealistic Expectations & Conflicting Emotions of 2020 - How to break FREE! with Justine Froelker, Licensed Counselor
The year 2020 has us reeling. Stuck at home during quarantine, we are torn between being productive in our home and using our creativity or just taking a break and resting. Are you feeling bombarded with feelings of anger, frustration, fear, stress, anxiety and depression on one side yet contentment, joy and peace on the other?? Our emotions are on a roller coaster as we navigate these unknown waters. Is it possible to experience both Faith and fear at the same time? Listen to Licensed counselor and Certified Brene Brown, Dare to Lead facilitator as she gives us permission to feel ALL the conflicting emotions in what she calls the beauty of the "AND." Navigating through this new normal is frustrating and exhausting. We are bombarded with unrealistic expectations all around us of productivity vs. rest. Today, be encouraged as we learn to give ourselves permission that what we are doing right now is enough.
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Today's Guest: Justine Froelker
Justine is a Licensed Professional Counselor. Full of grit and grace, Justine uses her fiery passion, vulnerability and witty humor to help others thrive when life doesn’t turn out the way you had hoped, dreamed or planned. She is certified in the work of Dr. Brené Brown. She has over 20 years of experience in traditional mental health and personal growth. Justine is the author of three best-selling books and was also honored to do two TEDx Talks. Currently, she travels nationally delivering keynotes, workshops, and trainings on topics such as leadership, courage, resilience, and much more. Justine lives in St. Louis with her husband Chad, their three dogs and for four months of the year hundreds of monarch butterflies. You can connect with Justine at www.justinefroelker.com
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April 14, 2020 - Episode #14 - Unrealistic Expectations & Conflicting Emotions of 2020 - How to break FREE! with Justine Froelker, Licensed Counselor
As if the stress is not bad enough, now we have these conflicting messages. Be productive, get creative, use this time wisely, or rest, renew, take it easy. So which is it? We are confronting these frustrating, unrealistic expectations head on, today on Healthy Harmony. Welcome to Healthy Harmony where we help you clarify and discuss health tactics to harmonize your life. I'm your host and health coach Jennifer Pickett and today our guest is Justine Froelker. Justine is a licensed professional counselor, full of grit and grace. Justine uses her fiery passion, vulnerability and witty humor to help others thrive when life doesn't turn out the way they had hoped, dreamed or planned. She is certified in the work of Dr. Brene Brown. She has over 20 years of experience in traditional mental health and personal growth. Justine is the author of three best selling books and was also honored to do two TED talks. She travels internationally delivering key notes, workshops and trainings on topics such as leadership, courage, resilience and so much more. She lives in Saint Louis with her husband Chad, their three dogs and for four months of the year, hundreds of Monarch Butterflies. Welcome my friend, how are you?
I'm good thank you, thank you for having me.
You're welcome. Okay I now we've got to get to the topic at hand. I've got to hear about the butterflies first. I think I would just do my soul some good to hear about these butterflies.
You know isn't it wild. Okay so, I mean, I've always liked butterflies I always have but after my husband and I went through our infertility journey and we lost three babies, we ended the journey without children and we live, what I call, "A child full life". So I work hard to do my own work and to make this a gift in creating and asking for and receiving other ways to parent. And so one of the things that we did and our, like, recovery after we ended our journey was, I'm a therapist right? So I knew that people, especially couples, who learn hobbies together are just happier people.
It does, it helps and one of the keys though is to learn the hobby together.
Not to necessarily have your spouse be teaching you the hobby. I don't think a lot of couples are equipped for that. That could usually mean some fights. But like, we live in Saint Louis Missouri. Monarch Butterflies are pretty much endangered. We've lost 90% of the population over the last 25 years and so Saint Louis is in the middle of the Monarch migration highway. When the migrate from Canada to Mexico they pass right through Saint Louis.
Usually through... Technically I really am not supposed to have them till July to about October however the last couple of years they've come very early. So we just got word that, as of right now, Monarchs have been spotted in Arkansas and Tennessee so far. So they are on their way, they have woken up from hibernation in Mexico and so we live on an acre here in the middle of Saint Louis and we've planted a ton of Milkweed which is a literal weed so a lot of people like to get rid of it, but it's beautiful and we raise butterflies. So during butterfly season I go outside, I collect the eggs, ideally, I want to try to find them as eggs. I bring them inside, I feed them for two weeks as they grow as caterpillars and then for two weeks they're in their chrysalis and then I let them go to just help the population
Oh wow. because the statistics, they're not great. And so in the wild about one to five out of every 100 Monarch eggs laid makes it to a healthy butterfly.
They have a lot of natural predators in nature.
Like stinkbugs and wasps and flies and then obviously us humans are their biggest ones 'cause we use a lot of chemicals and that poisons them. And so I, I maybe loose 20% or so and usually it's because of just natural predators 'cause I didn't catch them in time as eggs. And so I like, it's the craziest and weirdest hobby ever and we've done it for... This will be our fifth season and we really see usually, anywhere from 250 to 350 Monarchs a year.
And they're just so gorgeous and you just, kind of, immediately get that peaceful feeling. So that's exciting that, that is coming your way.
It is coming up and how badly does the world need that sign of resilience right now?
For the love. Yes.
Yes. And so I actually as a part of this like season that we're in, I recorded four butterfly classes because, well, kids are stuck at home and parents are trying to freaking like educated them.
Oh I love that.
I was like, "I'll record some butterfly videos for them". So like I have four butterfly videos on YouTube and I always tell parents, It's a nature lesson, or it's great quality time for you or it's 40 minutes total where you can go cry or breath. You know, or work because they're engaged in safe content.
Whatever, yeah whatever it takes. Again, I mean, whatever we can do to showcase God's creation and just the resilience, I love that word,
of that butterfly. So I'm so glad that you've let us know about those classes. And you said, I mean this is such a, a difficult time. It's just, man it's overwhelming, I mean none of us could have anticipated this so how are you and your husband coping during this time? What are you guys doing to kind of survive and to be resilient?
You know it's been so... It's hard and I don't think, you know there's a big blog going around right now that parents were not okay. And I don't think any of us are okay, you know. And at the same time, if you are okay today, or this moment, be okay. Right?
Like don't question it. Like lean into it, be okay, don't let foreboding joy and dress rehearsing catastrophes steal the okay ness, if in right now you are okay. And so like it's been, one of the things that's been interesting is you know I'm a speaker, corporate trainer and obviously my events are canceled and so now I am kind of figuring out how to serve the world with my gifts because the work that I teach is greatly needed. I mean it was needed before all of this but now this is just shining even a brighter light on it. And so like, how do I find ways to, to still teach and speak when it's all virtual? And then my husband is a CFO Accountant and so you know, he is doing more work as they you know, they furloughed a lot of employees here in Saint Louis for their company and so,
he's in the corner bedroom working and so it's been this piece of like, really a couple things, like one making sure you ask for what you want and need and we cannot read each others minds, we have to ask for what we want and need and also within that set some good boundaries within that. Because one of the things was a couple weeks ago, Chad was like, 'cause I was like talking at dinner and Chad's like "I spend all day "talking to people in that corner bedroom" and I was like, whereas I spend the day writing content for social media and talking maybe into a webcam like recording a video.
But that's it.
Right? But that's it.
And so I'm like wanting conversation so then on top of that, he's an enneagram 9, I'm an enneagram 4. Like he needs quiet and like,
Yeah. he looks at me and so I've started this series on my Instastories, it's called, "Chad in the wild" because two weeks ago he asked me, he goes, "Can I just go check on my trees outside "for a little while?" and I was like, "Before you talk to me?" and he goes, "Yeah."
And I was like "Okay." and like one day he was like, "I'm gonna go pick up dog poop okay?" and I was like, "Okay, and then we'll talk."
You do you. You do you, whatever it takes.
Right? But it's asking, because it was for me to say like, "Look dude, I need you to be here "and be present with me at the end of the day "because I'm by myself, right?" And he needs to be able to say, "I need time to be outside by myself first." and it's like okay, let's ask for what we want and need, set those boundaries, be clear, know that sometimes people don't have it to give and then that's okay, we've got to kind of rumble with emotions that that brings up and then maybe go find it somewhere else. So like if he doesn't have it to give one day then I better be willing to reach out to one of my friends to get it.
Oh that's a great point.
If I need it.
That's a great point.
Do you know what I mean?
Like no one expects those people in your house to be the be all, end all and everything because they're not. They weren't before this they sure as heck aren't going to be during this. It's just not possible.
So that really kind of ties in to our next topic for conversation. You know as we discuss these expectations and kind of, you know managing those expectations of each other. So lets talk about these expectations for ourself. I know that it's just a timely message and personally I'm struggling a bit with this. I'm thinking I need to produce, I need to create and then I have this other side that says no, take it easy like it's going to be okay. So, how do we deal with that conflict?
So my answer to that is always so an arraign and I have taught this concept for years and it never gets easier and it never gets more comfortable and I also know it is where our health and our happy and our magic lie. It's both. You know I think, give yourself permission to be where you're at. If you are at a place of where you are getting inspired and God's bringing you all these ideas and you're going to serve and you're going to create and you're going to make new products, new ideas, whatever it might be go for it or like you feel the energy and the mood and the inspiration. Declutter, do those house projects, learn an new hobby, go for it. Or you need to sit in a corner and cry for a little while, go for it.
Yeah. Just do it.
I think the biggest hurdle's like, it's that piece of giving ourselves permission to feel what I call, "The complicated gray." it's the permission of the "and", it's that messy middle of you can actually feel more than one emotion at the same time. Our brain doesn't like it because our brain's not really wired for it. Our brain is wired to keep us super comfortable, to keep things simple right? Like good, bad, black, white, easy, hard and yet life especially life in quarantine and how our hearts are wired and how God made us to live in connection and with emotion, to feel, it's not simple and it never will be and so the message that needs to start being shared more throughout this crisis and I'm calling this, this is a season, this is a season it will pass we can rest assured that some how, some way, we will be better when we get through this season. It will not be without scars and losses by any means and trauma for some of us. And like to get through this season better on the other side, I must give myself permission to be where I am and to not over attach, or over identify with it. Like it's okay to feel the hard, it's not okay to wallow in it and to over identify with it.
I love how you put that, that you address that gray area and it's about the "and". So lets unpack that a little bit more 'cause I think sometimes I struggle with the "and" part. And thinking it really has to be one way or the other.
I need to be super happy, super energized, super productive or you know, I need to be crying in a bed. So like, how do we deal with the "and"? Lets unpack that a little bit because I think that some really good stuff.
Well it's so interesting, it's in my first TED talk, I use my story, God gifted me with this incredibly, what many people call sad and hard story, I no longer call it that. It is my big story, because when I call it my sad, hard story it identifies the entire thing and that doesn't honor
my three babies that I will meet in heaven one day and it doesn't glorify God and it doesn't speak to my truth. And so one of the things that I say in that first TED talk is, "I am a forever grieving mother "and a woman who chooses to do the work "to make this a gift. "I have grief and joy, "I have happy and sadness, "I have trust and surrender all "in one moment, in one person "and as uncomfortable as that is, "it is there that our healing lies." This can get difficult when it comes to things like, you know, personal development and coaching sometimes and sometimes especially in the faith community like, you're not allowed to have fear 'cause we have Jesus. Well like, no. Jesus' going to sit with me in the fear right? And He's going to witness it and He felt fear and disappointment and grief. He walked this all first and so like, that space of like, I'm going to give myself permission to feel both even though it's really really messy, it's vulnerable and none of us like to feel vulnerable.
We really don't. We really don't.
No, we don't. And we weren't taught how to feel vulnerable, most of us, we're not taught how.
And I love how you've taken your story and you're using that so it's such a, it's such a heartbreaking story and I could hear the emotion in your voice, it's still there. Those three babies
That are in heaven. So how did that shape you, inform you because anybody would take a glance at you and go, "Wow, she is amazing, "and she's traveling and she's doing all of these "speaking engagements and she is just "so inspirational". How do you take that pain and let it transform you into what you see today? Is it about the "and"? What is it about? How do you do that?
I mean the "and" is a huge it's a huge part of it. A lot of it was like my own work. Right? Like, 'cause there's been times I used to say, 'cause we're eight years out, actually it was just last week which also probably plays into some of my difficult week, this week, like was our last embryo transfer, eight years ago.
Goodness. I'm so sorry.
You know, it's a long time ago and there's this piece, and I used to say like, "I'd give anything to have them here." and I wouldn't trade any of this. Like, because I wouldn't have any of this without having been given the gift of them in the way that I was given them. I will allow that to be enough also because I refuse to be a sad, bitter shell of who I once was.
That doesn't serve the world, it doesn't serve me and so like that piece of like... And, see there's the "and" again. And me being so grateful of like, where I am and this work and I love, I love my life. That does not like, for one second by any means erase how badly I wanted them.
Right? And like how much I wanted to be a mother in the traditional sense of the way. It was up to me to reclaim my life, to rewrite it, to figure out what the rise looked like. And so there is that piece of like, I don't get a lot of... I would not have gotten me back without the gift of them and also the loss of them.
That's changed yeah
I don't get any of that.
And so it's the work though of all of it and it's been like this whole season. We're stuck at home. You know I did a post a couple of weeks ago and I go, "You're tired." The average person has kids at home, they're trying to figure out how to work from home, have a coworker of their partner or spouse who also is trying to figure out how to work from home. They have children of different ages most likely, who now they're trying to figure out how to E-school. They might have pets, they're trying to deal with the fear and the anxiety and the scarcely all these feelings that most of us just don't know how to feel and express and cope in a healthy way to begin with. And I'm over here wondering what it would be like to have to homeschool three, seven year olds.
I will not
Is that bringing up some just some sadness?
And some okay.
It's really igniting that grief for sure like,
Like Chad and I tried to play two new games this weekend and I looked at him and I was like, "Playing games "with two people sucks."
Right? And he was like, "It does because the only person that I can like, you know destroy, or like screw up their game is you."
Right? And it's just like there's this piece of like, like that takes us to how much of like, judgment and comparison is in this season right now. My hard is not harder than your hard. Your hard might be special because you're trying to figure this out with kids. My hard is special in that like, I'm imagining what it would be like with kids and this is igniting a lot of grief and like it also makes you wonder about like, oh my gosh how long will I be here with just one other person because we don't have anybody to help us with our chores or to take our pictures or to play games with.
Or to be frustrated with or to be exhausted by. And like when we compare our hards, like we have got to get out of the Pain Olympics because that's disconnection. It's just really hard. The thing though, and I've always preached that lesson for years, the thing about this, this health season crisis that we are in with Corona is there's days especially those harder, darker days, that this collectiveness of it, that we're all in this together, is not making me feel better, it's just making me feel even more sad.
Oh that's interesting. So why is that? I mean you you know, you talk about the comparison but that general statement of, "Hey we're all in this together" what is it about that statement that kind of rubs you the wrong way?
Well and I love it, 'cause we're all in this together, it's I think that part of it is like, this is not, not affecting every single person. There are some people that are a little less affected. Like I had one friend that I checked in with and I was like, " How are you doing?" and she goes, "I feel horrible saying this, "but like, our lives aren't that different. "Like my schedule at work has changed a little bit, "my husband still has his job, "we have little kids though, "so we're not home schooling. "Like we're stuck at home so that's harder but..." and I was like, "Don't apologize "for where you're at like..."
"You don't need to apologize for that. "I just wanted to check in on you." And you know what she did? She met me back with presence. She was like, "How are you guys doing? "I'm assuming that like, all your speaking stuff "has been canceled." and I go, "Yeah it has and Chad's company "laid off, furloughed 30 people." And so like we are limited in our connection right now. We are not limited in our presence.
However most people, we don't know how to be truly present with someone 'cause we really tap out of vulnerability. And now since we're separated physically we can only do it on the phone or in video chat. We're really asking a lot of people. And so this idea like we're all in this together though we're separate, most of us just haven't been taught how to be truly present even in person.
Yeah and I think often times we just don't give it the time. I mean honestly even when everything is fine do we schedule that time, do we make it a priority for true connection and empathizing with somebody and listening to somebody, offering support. This season really is making us evaluate some things. You use that word "grief" and so this is something I've been thinking about a lot and I think that it's something that we all are facing right now, is grief, I mean, and it makes us recall grief that we've had over our lives. So not only are we grieving the way life once was but for me I'm starting this whole new wave of grief with my mom who I lost seven years ago. It's just like, because it's just kind of bringing it all to the forefront and so how do we manage Justine? How do we manage all of this overwhelming grief? 'Cause it kind of hits us all at one time.
It really does and the first week or so we could call this anxious and fearful and frustrated right? Like frustrated at leaders or frustrated at community or other people and I kept saying like, no, no, no, no ,no. This is all that and it is bottom line grief. And for some of us our brain is also going to process it as trauma. You know, no matter
that's a good point.
Right? And not all of us will but some of us will, that's the tough part about trauma right? Like it's all about how the brain takes in that information. Like, we might witness the same exact thing but my brain locks it away and it becomes PTSD where as with you it might not. There is this collective grief and I've said forever like, no one's life has turned out the way they hoped, dreamed and planned. I call that grief. We're all in grief whether or not you've lost someone or you've lost a dream or a job or a home or whatever it might be. Your life probably didn't turn out exactly the way you wanted, exactly the way
you planned for or prayed for and so there is loss in that. In this season of Covid there is a ton of disappointment and a ton of grief. And grief is nuanced and we can all say, "Oh there's five stages." It's such
Yes technically there's five stages and I believe you can experience three of them at the same freaking time.
You know I would agree with you, you know I went to see a wonderful counselor like about a year after loosing my mom 'cause I knew the right answers. I had worked in oncology for so long and led a cancer support group, so I knew the right answers but applying that was a little bit more challenging for me personally and so as we discussed those grief phases what she said is that, you know, those grief phases you don't just get through with one and then you move to the next phase. It really comes back and forth like waves. And sometimes that wave feels like it just knocks you down. So I think acknowledging that, "Hey we are all grieving", and let's stop the comparison of,
okay this person has it a lot worse or I have it a lot worse woe is me. Like let's just, let's acknowledge the grief and let's live in that gray area. The "and"
Like you so aptly put it before. I really, I really love that because it's okay to be experiencing grief and still have joy.
I think that's one of my favorite statements that you made.
So I wanna ask you too about part of the grieving is, is fear and that fear is just pervasive. So how do we manage the fear of the unknown, and what's going to happen in the future? How do we manage that fear?
So for me it comes to this space of... I don't want you to be fearless. I don't want you to be shameless, I don't want you to be fearless because that is not how we...
Okay that powerful, that's powerful 'cause that's not what I think most would expect you to say, I think most would expect you to say, "Hey you can do this, be fearless." So you're saying do not be fearless.
I don't want you to be because you were made for connection, you were made to feel. You are not a robot, we are not robots. He wired us for relationship and so I need you to feel your feelings, I need you to name them and there's a lot of different kinds of fear. Lets be honest like, there are more feelings than just happy, mad, sad. Right? Like there's a lot of different kinds of mad. And so like,
A whole lot.
learn the language and so name the fear. And name it correctly, name it appropriately and the piece, though, is that emotion is energy. I'm going to speak it, I'm going to reach out for help because if I don't it lives in my brain that loves to spin on stories. And then it starts living in my body and I start really reacting from my emotion because I'm stuck in fight, flight or freeze response. I cannot get out of that response unless I speak it out loud, I get it out of me. I bring down the physiological response. I breath, I pay attention, I'm mindful and I'm going to choose to cope with it in an appropriate way, in a healthy way because what happens is we over attach, we over identify to the emotion and it becomes our entire story instead of a moment in our day. Instead of a day in the week and it writes the entire ending. When we work from this place of courage and vulnerability and whole heartedness and what I believe in how God created us to live and love and lead. We move through our feelings. We don't react from them, we respond to our life. So that we can become the co-authors that He wants us to be.
I love that because you know, you're acknowledging... I wanna make sure I'm hearing you correctly. There's so much good stuff and I have to confess I'm sitting here trying to take notes at the same time. I'm doing a podcast, like it's that good and I'm sure our listeners are doing the same. Like, I need to make a note of that, I need to put that somewhere where I can see it. But you're saying we're made to feel and it's okay to feel those feelings and then to move forward. But we're gonna move forward with courage and vulnerability. I really, really love the way you put that so that we're not allowing ourselves to be stuck and mired down of that emotion.
Right. We're not supposed to plow, stop plowing through your emotions. Stop trying to stuff them down into this endless black hole that does not exist inside of you. Plowing through then, numbing them out because when we do that they live in us and they will make us sick and we will hurl them
Onto the people that we love and need most.
We'll hurl them.
And it's such a powerful statement and I'm gonna tell you that is something I have only come to realize with myself, over the past couple of years. I shared with you before that I'm a great shover downer. I am excellent at taking some of those feelings and just kind of shoving it deep down and then putting on that happy mask and acting like I have it all together. And I have seen in my own personal health journey how destructive that is to my physical health, my mental and emotional health and my spiritual health so, coming from a confessed shover downer that's why this is so fascinating to me. So ...
Jennifer don't forget I confessed to you I am a very good number workaholic.
Yes, yeah. So we're either a shover or a number or somewhere in between right?
Right, but that's what this work is about. I'm not this expert at feeling all my feelings or never experiencing shame or never experiencing fear. I choose to walk out the work, I choose to feel the feelings, I choose to speak the unspoken, I choose to love and lead myself well first so I can love and lead others second.
I love it. Oh I love it. Okay so, I'm absolutely sick as our time together is drawing to a close, I'm curious, what expectations should we set for ourselves right now?
What if we didn't set expectations right now?
Mmm there we go.
We're in a pretty traumatic, grief filled, scary, difficult, very full season.
What if we didn't have to set expectations right now? What if you lived and loved and led and parented knowing that you are actually doing your best in this moment because if you...
If you knew better you would have done better in this moment. Right now in this moment it is enough. It doesn't mean that we don't have room to grow and changed. It does however mean that right now it is enough.
Justine I love that. Those words I think made me kind of, take a just a collective sigh and I think all of our listeners just did the same. Like lets get rid of these stupid expectations that we're placing on ourselves or that maybe we think we're getting from others that we have to perform in a certain way or talk in a certain way and lets just toss those to the side.
Not helpful, they're not helpful right now.
My goodness. Okay, so much good stuff I couldn't write fast enough. So guys I hope that y'all took good notes but you can always go back and re listen to this. I know this is one that I'm looking forward to revisiting so many times because just so many good nuggets in here and again Justine this just made my soul feel better.
Honestly because it was just very freeing to let go of those expectations and to just feel those feelings and move forward with courage and vulnerability and we will get through this time we will get through it.
And we are we're just in that collective season of grief so thank you so much for sharing with us and your wise words of wisdom but also for being vulnerable I know that you're good at that but thank you 'cause I think it's very refreshing to all of us and it encourages other people to be vulnerable. I know that is not my first line. That's not my first response, I'm like, nope I'd rather just kind of act like I have it all together but it's so important that we, that we're just vulnerable about our struggles and about our feelings so I think your just kind of paving the way with that. I know our listeners are going to want to know where they can be connected with you? So please let everybody know where they can connect with you more.
Yeah so I'm very easy to find because I'm the only Justine Froelker I think in the world and I have this bright red hair so if you Google me you'll find it very quickly.
I love it, I love it.
As my business consultant manager says, she goes, "You have this hair "that doesn't occur naturally in nature "and you like, pull it off." and I'm like, thank you
We'll see what it looks like after this?
Yeah, we're all going to be looking a little bit rough. I'm just worried about my eyebrows, my hair, my nails all the above. It's going to be rough.
You know it's going to be rough and we're all be in it together.
So I share this work across all the social media platforms so LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook. You can connect with me on all of those at my website which is justinefroelker.com I have a free E-book devotional there which is based off of the Brene Brown work that I'm certified in. I also have, throughout this time I've being really seeing a like, four to five minute video that I'm calling "A Lunch Break of Courage" everyday during the season that's just like a little tidbit of like, how do we do this? How do we do this? And like so if you wanna... those are also on my website where you can kind of just view them by topic, if you're reading them by topic and then I am doing kind of these mini workshops throughout the next three weeks some of them are even free the rest of them are pretty low cost just to try to serve during this time. And I have two books on Amazon also and my YouTube channel so there's no shortage of content, I always tell people though, don't you dare numb with it.
Like I have one girlfriend she's like, "So I may have a problem, I'm binge watching your YouTube." 'Cause she's like, "Can you tell me "what you're talking about in this video?" And I go, "Why are you watching a video "from three years ago? Good God, "like watch my new stuff."
Yeah do the new stuff, yeah do the new stuff.
She went right down the rabbit hole and I was like oh gosh.
How funny, how funny. It's a big compliment though, it's a big compliment.
I know personally I'm really loving the "Lunch Breaks of Courage"
Just those little snippets of... It just kind of, you know, builds me up a little bit so thank you for doing those and thank you so much for coming on here today. Guys remember to subscribe to us on your favorite platform of choice on Facebook or Instagram at Inspire Healthy Harmony. We'll also have a great discussion on the Facebook page. As always you can check us out at inspirehealthyharmony.com so until we meet again please know that our heart and our prayers are with you and we hope you have a healthy and happy day.